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Finally the replacement push encoders have made it to our online store and can now be ordered regularly through our shop system:
Happy it could be resolved this easily
Thanks for your feedback!Hm… I hadn´t heard of this before.
The last three LEDs of every encoder are reserved for the step counter.
I take it that with your device they also stay on at the 1st encoder when the sequence is running?
Are they fainter, or the same brightness as the step counter?
I´ve noticed with some BCRs that some LEDs stay on faintly all the time.Does it also happen with the original Behringer firmware?
Could you make a little video with a running sequence? A quick-and-dirty mobile phone video should suffice.
Hi Panason,
thank you for your feedback!
Happy to hear that the concept of the Zaquencer is appealing to you.Regarding your ideas, adding mores scales should be possible.
Do you have a link to the scales you like to see?Unfortunately, your other ideas all run into the same problem of the already maxed out pattern flash memory (please read around the forums if you´re interested, there is a lot of information about it).
You see for example, for different CC values per step we´d have to have the space in pattern memory for every step*track to tell it which CC value was selected. This gets huge pretty quick. Same goes for 4 more tracks (plus CPU limits in this case).
We still plan to add updates for the Zaquencer, but only things that don´t go into the pattern memory (have to have different settings per pattern).
Cheers!
ChristianOk I see… I´m a little confused as you wrote TR-8 a couple of times in your last post.
From your first post I gathered that it works with the TR-8, but not with the ERM, correct?Without seeing the data it´s difficult to delve deeper.
One thing off the top of my head is that only the Zaquencer version 1.01 introduced reacting to “Midi Continue” commands. If you´re still on 1.00 it might be worth checking that out. Maybe your master clock makes intensive use of the continue commands? A long shot, but a possibility.
For example, this is a short sequence recorded from the MidiOX internal Midi Sync Transport, which works fine with the Zaquencer.
001014D0 MOX 2 F2 00 00 — — Song Position Ptr
00101CFA MOX 2 FA — — — — Start
00101D0A MOX 2 F8 — — — — Timing Clock
00101D19 MOX 2 F8 — — — — Timing Clock
00101D2D MOX 2 F8 — — — — Timing Clock
00101D3C MOX 2 FC — — — — StopHi munkee b,
this is indeed weird.
The Zaquencer reacts to standard Midi clock messages. 0xFA for start, 0xFB for Stop, 0xFC for Continue, 0xF8 for clock pulse.I have just checked out the manual of the ERM here:
http://www.e-rm.de/data/Midiclock_Manual_EN.pdfIt says that these are the messages that the ERM clock sends. The only different thing is a Song Position Pointer at the start, but this should just be ignored by the Zaquencer (or sent through, if that option is enabled).
Can you record a short start sequence from the ERM clock with a Midi monitor? Maybe it will give hints if anything else happens. Also if you could compare that recorded sequence to a recorded sequence of the TR-8 (which works) maybe we´ll be a step further.
Just to rule out the improbable, you are connecting the Zaquencer per Midi DIN cables?
Just asking because I also saw a USB port on the ERM clock.
Also, this is likely because you already got it to work with the TR-8, but the Zaquencer´s global clock setting is on “external”, right?Do you see the midi in light blinking on the BCR when receiving Midi from the ERM? Can you try putting it on “through” (either with “clock out” or “midi through” global settings) and see what comes out on the other end? Does this through-put signal still trigger your other machines correct?
Cheers,
ChristianHi Phil,
thanks for your question!
Yes, all you ask is possible.
You can trigger up to 4 different VSTi tracks with the Zaquencer, including drum racks.
When you´re happy with the tracks, you can record them as Midi in Ableton.Too hook up the Zaquencer to a computer, you need a USB-Midi interface.
Such a separate USB-Midi Interface is often included in existing soundcards, or you can purchase separate, inexpensive interfaces for the upload. The cheapest one that we´ve found to work reliably is the M-Audio Midi Sport Uno, for example: http://www.thomann.de/de/maudio_midisport_uno.htm?gclid=CMGz3u2hhskCFQUOwwodh8EF5gThere are cheaper ones for around 5$ on eBay, but they are hit-and-miss, some work fine, some don´t.
Let me know if you have further questions!
Best,
ChristianGreat tip! Hm, regarding the delay, I would think that turning it on live, skipping over the ratchet setting in the global menu is no big deal? If anything, hitting “delay” in the global menu should be even easier because you can just turn the encoder all the way to the left, and it will definitely land on “delay”.
Thanks for sharing, sounds great!
It´s an exciting thought that the Zaquencer will be featured on vinyl
Can you post back here with a link to the vinyl release when it´s out?
Would like to put it on our Facebook.Hi Steve,
thanks for sharing that information!Best,
ChristianHi Tommy,
I was not aware of a different Midi practice for drums that only uses Note On and not Off.
Quickly Googling the info I´ve found this page though:
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~music/cmsip/readings/MIDI%20tutorial%20for%20programmers.htmlEvery NOTE ON message requires its corresponding NOTE OFF message, otherwise the note will play forever. The only exception is for percussion instruments, where it can happen that only the NOTE ON is sent, as the percussion note stops by itself automatically. But it is better practice to send the NOTE OFF in every case, because you are not sure how it could be interpreted by the synthesize receiving it.
So I guess both is possible for drums.
I´d like to follow that explanation above, and use the “better practice” as the Note Off message actually gives you more control over the sound (and now, as you mentioned is also intertwined with the ratcheting function). I could imagine it being useful to some, where they might also trigger some sort of bass tones in the drum machine. That´s something I´m not using personally but I´ve seen it being done.
Anyway, can you please describe again what bugs you about it? I did not quite understand it from your first post. Is it only that the Note Off chokes the sample before you want it to stop? Can´t you just use a longer Note Length then?
Also, can you maybe check your drum machine, and how it reacts to Note OFf? Would make sense to be able to adjust that in the sampler.
Hi again,
oh, I think I misunderstood your first post. I thought it was about resetting the step to 0 on both devices when you press start on the master. Now it sounds more like you want to synchronize the change of the patterns to each other? Please correct me if I´m wrong.I don´t know if it helps you, but you can tell the Zaquencer which patterns to load by sending it a CC message. Please check the manual at page 22 (Trigger enable) for all the details.
Do you have a link to the latest Tenori On Manual where the use of SPP is explained?
Hi chnouf, the Zaquencer does not send the Song Position Pointer.
To sync, it sends Midi Start and Midi Stop. As per specification, a slave should start the song at the beginning when it receives Midi Start: http://www.blitter.com/~russtopia/MIDI/~jglatt/tech/midispec/start.htmI just quickly checked the Tenori On manual, and there is no mention of the song position pointer. The Midi implementation chart only shows Start and Stop. Are you sure that this is the cause of the problem? Could it be some setting in the Tenori On?
Another idea: have you tried switching places of the machines? Use the Tenori On as master and the Zaquencer as slave? Maybe this might get rid of your problem…
Congratulations! Good to hear that you´ve succeeded with the replacement. Thanks for posting back here, now we know 2 reliable sources for the replacement push encoders. Great!